FMF Gnarly and Turbine Core for Yamaha YZ250X

Company: FMF

Price: Gnarly $249.99

Additional Pricing

  • Turbine Core 2 $169.99
  • Turbine Core 2.1 $229.99
Roost
  • More robust build that stock with a factory look.
  • Can tune the power a little--mostly for mid-range boost.
  • Spark arrestor compliance with power gains too.
  • Very cost effective for replacement parts.
Endo
  • Sticks out wider than stock, careful in the rocks!
  • Not the two-stroke power gains we use to get in the 80's with a pipe!

Credits

  • Writer: Jimmy Lewis
  • Photographer: Jimmy Lewis/Erek Kudla

What it is

  • FMF's pipe and mufflers for the new Yamaha YZ250X. Some not available.

Here is what you really need to know. That Yamaha YZ250X needs it’s own pipe and muffler if you want proper performance. How do we know, it wasn't because FMF told us. We actually tested some stuff and found this out. If you want to lose a little bit of power and performance just bolt on YZ motocross pipes and mufflers on and you’ll be sorry.

FMF took the time to develop and refine their Turbine Core 2 muffler to specifically match the different compression ratio and powervalve timing as well as keep the off-road power style the YZ is so good at producing.

The Gnarly pipe focuses on increasing the lower RPM horsepower and torque and works on the YZ250X unlike the Fatty. FMF is looking to add four-stroke tractor like torque to your two-stroke. Designed to withstand the harsh elements it is made from 18-gauge steel construction and a nickel coating for rust-free looks. And the O-Rings are included.

The Turbine Core 2.1 is the newest FMF spark arrestor using the turbine core internal and a larger aluminum body with a stainless steel end cap. It has more packing volume yet is claimed to be a half-pound lighter than stock. But FMF did not put this pipe into production after we tested an early version.

The Turbine Core 2 is the standard for slip-on spark arrestors. It is made from an aluminum extrusion with the proven turbine core spark arrestor and then a perforated tube surrounded by packing capped with a stainless steel end cap. This is currently being produced as a S/A application for the YZ250X

*This evaluation was updated 9/13/2016 to reflect current information.

" If you want to lose a little bit of power and performance just bolt on YZ motocross pipes and mufflers on and you’ll be sorry."

How it works

  • Definitely some options for tuning the power.
  • Not as narrow as the well-designed stock pipe.
  • We really liked the look and the sound coming out of the new Turbine Core 2.1. Too bad you can't buy one!

* This test has been updated to reflect that FMF never put the TurbineCore 2.1 into production and the TurbineCore available for the YZ250 is not what we tested here.

Like we said, don’t expect much if you slip on YZ250 motocross pipes or mufflers and expect to get performance gains. We did and the bike lost bottom, lost torque and even lost top-end pull and power. From a simple little pipe and muffler change showing how important it is that your package is tuned. Yamaha went to great lengths to get the new X to run like it does and the pipe is one of the key components of the package like it is on any two-stroke. Obviously they did a really good job as pipe makers quickly found out that the stock pipe was hard to beat.

First off in testing we did a number of different tests and switching around combinations of pipes (stock and FMF) and mufflers (stock and FMF) to test every combination. All of our testing was done at near 2000 Ft. elevation and in roughly 60-degree weather. We were basically a clip position and a main jet size leaner in jetting on all of our setups for normal riders. Slower riders who did not rev the bike as much could have easily dropped a pilot jet size and another on the main jet with the FMF pipe.  

Individually the Gnarly pipe does most of what FMF claims. Though the pipe alone needs to have the leaner jetting to work properly, with the stock muffler it was still a little rich on the bottom and loses some of the very low-low end crispness of the stock system. Then when everything cleans up and starts functioning there is more torque which means less stalling when a gear high. It pulls with slightly more authority and runs through the powerband making more power at similar RPMs. Up top it feels like it makes the same power but does not rev out as far as stock. It prefers to be shifted early and use the meatier mid-range compared to the stock pipe where you can ride it any way you like. One other thing the FMF pipe does is resist dents better though it’s thicker build but it also sticks out farther on each side compared to the stock pipe where Yamaha went to painstaking measures to tuck the shape of the stampings in for tighter side clearance. On a performance alone stance the pipe is better for those who like a more robust mid-range and meatier torque feeling.

The Turbine Core 2 muffler alone on the stock pipe also causes a slight drop in crispness across the range and really likes the leaner jetting. If anything it runs mostly the same with a slight decrease in throttle response through the range. But the bike did pick up on top end power and the length in which it revved out. The exhaust note was very close to stock still but at least now the bike was spark arrestor legal for when it needed to be. The Turbine Core is 2.9 pounds which is a half-pound lighter than stock.

Onto the pre-production Turbine Core 2.1 (It had a smaller outlet opening than the YZ250 one does) and this one was better. On the stock pipe it kept the crispness of the stock straight through muffler even with the spark arrestor. It felt like the bike actually started pulling earlier and also revved longer. Power wise we could not feel any increase and if anything in the middle it felt like there was just a bit less. But the bike was easier to ride and on top it pulled the gearing better. On the noise side is where the 2.1 shines taking the bark or sharpness out of the noise and especially to the rider the bike sounds quieter. Weight wise it is identical to stock at 3.5 pounds.

Now we tested the FMF Gnarly and the different S/A silencers. Mated to the Turbine Core 2 the pipe starts to come alive. It still isn’t as crisp as the stock/stock setup but it does start pulling down as low. It has a torquier feel and the mid-range pull is enhanced quite a bit over stock. Now the bike really likes gear-high riding. The overrev is not as crisp as stock but the length of the pull comes back with this muffler.

Even better for most of us was the pre-production Turbine Core 2.1/Gnarly combination. Mostly because it mirrored the stock pipes crispness and smoothness with just a little more mid-range and then a long and smooth overrev. There felt a little more power everywhere in the spread except on top where it felt the same as stock. Not too bad for a S/A setup that was also quiet. This really made us (and pipe makers trying to do better) aware of how much work Yamaha put into the tuning of the X. Too bad it is not for sale.

Riders who wanted more of a snappy and motocross feel preferred the Turbine Core 2 and riders who liked smooth and seamless power delivery, or were more what we’d call trail rider category preferred the pre-production Turbine Core 2.1 that is not for sale. The FMF parts are priced very competitively and actually seem like a bargain when compared to what a four-stroke system costs. With the two-stroke pipe sticking out and just asking for dents, this is a good thing and FMF has accomplished the very tough task of making a better pipe for the YZ250X.

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"Even better for most of us was the Powercore 2.1/Gnarly combination. Mostly because it mirrored the stock pipes crispness and smoothness with just a little more mid-range and then a long and smooth overrev."


18 Responses to “FMF Gnarly and Turbine Core for Yamaha YZ250X”

  1. Jeremy Preston

    This is interesting as I installed a turbine core 2 on my yz250x with the stock pipe and noticed the loss of crispness like they explained, however, I installed a fmf fatty and felt the bike had better power everywhere especially up top. Bike is still very smooth and noticed no loss in bottom end power. Fatty made throttle response crisper all the way through.

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  2. Jimmy Lewis

    We had a regular YZ250 Gnarly and a stock YZ250 pipe that went on at different times. To be honest, some riders could not tell a difference even in the worst setup conditions. They did notice things like the bike not pulling the gearing though. Our stock pipe actually got dented in a very strange place and felt like it got better throttle response but lost torque!

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  3. Andy

    This article is great… I bought a 250X in October, along with the GYTR FMF Turbine Core and the GYTR FMF Gnarly pipe. I am a self admitted oddball because I love how the GYTR branded pipes look vs the straight up FMF ones. I took delivery of the bike with the GYTR Turbine Core 2 installed (because I need a spark arrestor where I ride) but kept on the black stock pipe. Sounds like the Gnarly will help out. I am self admittedly lost when it comes to jetting and dialing a carb in. I am on the opposite side of the spectrum than most dirt bike riders because I have very little mechanical knowledge or background. I was actually considering a Lectron Carb to maybe make my life easier… But i digress,

    Im normally a 4 stroke rider and I like torque, which led me to an FMF Gnarly… Is this Gnarly tested the same as the GYTR Branded one? I assume so.

    In the second to last paragraph, you mention PowerCore Silencers. Did you mean Turbine Core there?

    I also couldn’t find the Turbine Core 2.1 listed for the Y250X on the Yamaha or FMF website. Is this new or am I not looking in the right places. And can you put a spark arrestor in a Turbine Core 2.1? I am a trail rider only and after reading this, that Gnarly/2.1 seems like an ideal set up for me. Even though I am nervous about jetting it properly.

    Love the site. Keep up the good work.

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    • Jimmy Lewis

      Yes, meant Turbine Core, thanks for the catch!
      Not sure on the GYTR pipe, we have not seen or tested one.

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    • Tyler Gilsdorf

      So I figured I would post here because I haven’t seen this info anywhere else.. the FMF Turbinecore 2 Silencer based GYTR Silencer is not correct for the X. It is made for the MX model. The length is longer and the outlet diameter is smaller on the FMF Turbinecore made specifically for the X. I only realized this after some research and holding the two silencers next to one another. The GYTR Silencer caused some jetting issues for me. I have photos showing the differences but I can’t post them here because of the photo format on iPhone.

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  4. Jimmy Lewis

    They may be a little slow on getting it added…

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  5. borlo

    Any idea on how the Q Stealth for the YZ250 MX works on the X? I will be getting a YZ250X eventually, and on my last 2T (Husaberg) I used the Gnarly/Stealth combo and really liked it. I always run my bikes with the quietest systems available.

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    • Jimmy Lewis

      We would have to test it to know for sure. That bike has shown to be very particular to the muffler if you are looking for maximum performance.

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  6. Robert Funk

    So I have the Gnarly and the Turbine Core 2.0 on mine. Since putting it on the jetting has been whack. I am currently all stock except the pilot jet is leaned from a 50 to a 48. That fixed my plug fouling issue but now I have a strange crackle sound from the tail pipe at 1/8 – 1/4 throttle. I should also mention that there is quite a bit of smoke. I also don”t get the down low punch like stock, and the bike seems to not run smoothly until around 1/2 to full throttle. So im pretty convinced that I’m rich on the needle as i feel the bike pulls hard through the mid-top range. I love my FMF stuff but man I’m about to go back to the stock pipe. If only it shipped with a spark arrestor!

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  7. Jimmy Lewis

    Here is the latest information we have on FMF and the test has been updated to reflect this:

    FMF did not produce a TurbineCore2.1 for the YZ250X and the YZ250 one drops power and throttle response on an X.

    FMF Fatty YZ pipe kills power on YZx.
    FMF Ganrly YZ250 pipe works on YZ250X as described in test.
    Turbine Core 2 is specific to YZ250X– This one works and is S/A.
    They never produced the TurbineCore 2.1 that we now have.

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  8. Jimmy Lewis

    Not on this bike. We needed the spark arrestror.

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  9. Jimmy Lewis

    What numbers are you looking for? If it is a dyno run, we don’t ride those here…

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  10. Jimmy Lewis

    Q Stealth does not kill the power. In fact in a lot of tests it increases the peak, but we do not really ride here. It changes the feel of the delivery and usually softens the “hit” in the low end or low-mid transition. Where riders feel it and what the call these portions of power differs greatly.

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  11. Jimmy Lewis

    In most cases spark arrestors do not cut power. Jetted properly they can actually increase it do to some added back pressure. We know how to jet so we do not have problems. FMF usually has a jetting guide that is a good start.

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